Registrant Street3: Sunny13:24:27 A: Yes, you will get a confirmation email once payment confirmed or package shipped. Please deny the parcel and contact us in a hurry. I mean, really, 1500 sets available cheap. A company trying to con buyers by establishing a co. Notice the ferrule is much shorter on the counterfeit club. The counterfeit is smooth to the touch. Many of the counterfeit clubs I have seen will look totally different from address than an authentic club. Golfetail was where I bought them, I won an auction for a little over $300. Would be a great post for us to do. Without limiting the foregoing, Golfskydiscount,Inc. Stop asking about reputeable sites! I dont care what brand it is as I know your website is totally genuine, just send me the best youve got. On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Craig Coleman wrote: I am looking at buying some Callaway X22 irons and obviously having seen the price you are offering them for I am very interested. beijingshixichengqu NO55, 100000 So I cancelled the dispute but adviced Paypal that they were selling fake Ping clubs. If clones are the market you are looking into they are the best in that market for sure Bob. ns2.cnolnic.com, Registrant Contact: You can also try the magnet test on your driver to see if it will stick. Expiration Date:2010-05-27 * Hosted on 2 IP addresses over 0 years. Louisville Golf is one of the rare companies remaining that still produces persimmon drivers and fairway woods. There ARE reputable eBay sellers though and my recent experience buying a set of full custom Irons through a detailed fitting questionnaire was Best in class, while I did save hundreds. The fact they say they sell OEMs is proof they are scumbag counterfeiters. not to mention these companies would still make plenty of money using american (safe, sanitary, secure) labor. Does it have a telephone number which is not just for taking orders, does it have a physical address for an actual retail outlet, does it offer free delivery throughout the world. OK so much for describing the difference between fakes and clones. Then I saw there was another listing by golfetail for the same club with a buy it now option and it was $50 less than my previous winning bid. Colors are different. Wish I had seen your article before doing so. Counterfeit Scotty Cameron Head Cover. Yeah you really have to be careful DGodons. Cheers! It is shocking to see the propoganda on this website. Im wondering weather there products are fake/copies? I am Marc Ducey, Co-Founder of GolfEtail. NS History: 3 changes on 3 unique name servers over 2 years. 10.5deg.myquestion is it had a weird sound.he said he paid 500 in 2010 will sell it 150.good deal or pass? The site is written in terrible English and when you Whois lookup the domain, it points to a chinese location RockBottomGolf.com, a top Internet golf retailer prides itself on bringing rock bottom prices to all its customers known as Rock Heads. If you think this guide will help you identify counterfeit golf clubs, please share it with your friends by clicking the share buttons below. Not only are the club heads counterfeit but so is everything else. Cleveland Your game improves by playing better equipment, and that makes it more enjoyable, which makes you play more, and get better, and buy better equipment which makes you better, etc. The descriptions that were provided to help me spot these small inconsistances allowed me to easily identify, in some pictures, that the clubs were actually fake. And guess what you came up with cheapgolf4u. When contacted they ignored the complaint refused to acknowledge or accept the problem despite sending photos and generally just stone walling or not answering emails that may implicate them in accepting responsibility. and found the company does not exist. Did you ever get an official word on the driver? Tech Street2: A R11 driver cost $15 us to manufacture and retail for $399. Ok just i have bought a nike dymo driver off him and compared the head to my nike 3wood i got from my local pro shop and the driver looks perfect and feels great to hit so im sure its genuine. Hi Nick. They let me know that they were definitely counterfeit. I've always said when buying irons or anything golf related on eBay, go to DHGate first and look up to see if those irons are available on the site. Registrant Search: wl sale owns about 2 other domains I have been dealing with Rockbottomgolf for years. Bob, after i left post bob i thought the same thing,so i bought it and have not been happier.thanks for your reply.jim, Do not buy from progolfstore.co.uk its a scam they sell fake golf clubs. :). Name : Citra Joe The enforcement and legal aspects of these companies intellectual property costs millions in U.S. taxpayer money, but that is how the profits of these companies are protected. I know many people personally that ordered from this website and didnt want to believe that their items are fake. Couldnt check my control or length of the shot since I was hitting into a net; however, it did appear that the ball was launching higher than normal for me. Finish is different, colors are off, and font is slightly different. As a GolfWRX reader, you know how much a custom fit club can work for you over something bought off the shelf. If thats the case, yes it could be true that they could change the type of metals used to save cost, but it could also be true that they could just as easily make XXX extra units for every XXX amount they produce genuinely, and if thats the case, then those extra clubs would be same quality with either a bogus serial number or even without one,but that would be almost entirely impossible to know for sure. They are easily copied. So we put the TC-201 irons in the hands of our scratch golfer by Hannah Holden | May 21, 2020 | Kit Fancy something a bit different in your next set of clubs? Then maybe they just run off a few extra when the Adams rep goes to the hotel to sleep. I compare the feel of a Miura to that of snapping a young tree branch and a Mizuno to that of hitting a marshmallow. Pictures of each individual face as well. I did get a phone number and address in the US. Their sale must be almost counterfeits goods. Entrepreneur then contacted the businesses with the greatest growth to confirm eligibility. Tech Phone Ext. I think ive already bought fake R7 $^) driver on the internet.. $145 only.. In the Europe market, the R9 Ti heads were offered in October 2009 with a larger club head that should offer a little more distance and a higher trajectory. If I buy sale clubs from well known outlets like TGW EDWIN WATTS GOLFSMITH, can I be sure Im getting genuine clubs? Has anyone used this site they say they ship from usa but still not sure if the clubs are fake. The fakes have very sharp lines, and you can see they aren't sandblasted in the recessed areas (at least not the same). Golf Stix, Inc. All of the advise here is sound. EmperorPenguin There are now lots of middle-men involved in the production of a golf clubbelieve it or not there might be over 75 people touching a design before it hits the shelves. Looking that up, shows HUGE SCAM. Anyone out there know if site is genuine. Definitely a scam ! The sticker on the shaft said Assembled USA Head China n Shaft China. Report counterfeit: http://www.counterfeitalertnetwork.com.au or http://www.ic3.gov. Althoughironically many are funded by Taiwanese investorsinteresting huh. Has anyone had any experience with this site? Today the 3rd set has crossed my desk. Is anyone has any info about this web site please let me know. b) extra epoxy isnt really indicative of a counterfeit either, because the club could have been reshafted by a hobbiest or a sloppy professional clubmaker. Also notice the raised Turbulators dont go all the way to the edge of the face on the counterfeit club. These guys are a complete rip off so dont touch them with a pole. Nick, document.getElementById( "ak_js" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Contest runs from May 18th June 1st Maximum of 5 entires allowed 1 allowed per day The Contest Has Officially Begun! Many friends have tried my clones and find no dropoff in performance. This site has already saved me from a couple sites!! : 1) The club head sizes were too large; 2) the head covers were made of plastic not leather; 3) the shaft lengths were too long for a 3 & 5 wood; 4) the shaft graphics were slightly off; 5) the grips were colored when they should have been simple black; 6) the club weights were too heavy; 7) the shafts should have been Fujikura Blur 70 not 60 (the drivers shaft); and 8)they used a cheap ill-fitting gasket under the face plate which sets the face angle. Thats not to say there arent fakes! If you need a dealer..message me .he charges less then others. To this day, Miura-san continues to work in the factory with his sons, Shinei and Yoshitaka, who proudly carry on the Miura legacy. I thought I was dealing with an above board on-line company, but got the shaft. I paid over $300 for these and guess what? bingo! Right on Brian! Look for the sign posts. Obviously that is a tall goal, and we are not perfect, but I dare say there is only a very very small minority is unhappy at the end of the day. Hope everyone finds this usefulPlease Pass It On. I had my wakeup call and I am going out today to GOLFTOWN to look on the spot for some resonable clubs. I have no idea who Bussiness Review is or its standing within the world of journalism but I am not about to dispute the accuracy of the figures mentioned. Rock Bottom Golf: BUYER BEWARE!!!!! The cover and core are made from lower-quality materials, the cover is thicker, and as you can see, uneven. He got the package from UPS what I saw. yeah sorry wondering if mine are legit now . * The majority of these counterfeiters do not produce left hand models. You can post now and register later. Verry cheeep, Did you get any feedback on this? cn, Administrative Contact: If you read it with a Chinese accent, all will become abundantly clear. Very quick (free!) I took a chance for the one on ebay. I understand your concern, please kindly notice that all the items are OEM products and brand new with high quality. Registrant Street3: Postal Code : 606550. > yeah sorry wondering if mine are legit now . Your link has been automatically embedded. Did you also notice they said golf towel. Also, look at the cost of the club, if its 150 cheaper than every where else then youre looking at a fake. Any scam here? Does anyone know whether this suppliers sell original stuff? (brand new wedges)used only the 55 in a 9 hole round last night felt great almost a i didnt swing hard enough sound coming from the iron but with great distance. Their price for siem clubs seemed very low. Yes I have been looking at buying a set of R9s with bag and all for $500, three woods, irons and putter. I ordered the Taylormade R9TP irons and was contacted within a few hours by my CC company asking if I had purchased any electronic equipment from Toyontech.com. Although i wasnt happy being called a Muppet i didnt really mind as this saved me alot of money, and saved me getting into trouble with ebay!! Has anyone ever dealt with great golf sales on e bay. TaylorMade serial numbers are normally put on with a laser and are smooth to the touch just like most counterfeit clubs. In case anyone is interested I recently purchased 3 hybrids from them: a 3, 4, and 5, and I will say that they are terrific in quality of workmanship, looks, and performance. These were counterfeit Mizuno irons. I knew Id get stuck otherwise, w/ either the club or a return shipping fee. Thanks Dan, I will wait to see how they are then contacy Callaway and try the same approach with Topmallgolf as i will want to get some monies back if they are not real genuine clubs. from the company known address and on arrival to the address given, no such company City : Kettering thanks for your assistance, I will check out these sites that you mentioned. Tech City: Xiamen
Daiwa Iron Set ONOFF (2022) AKA Regular SMOOTH KICK MP-522I 5 pieces Miura Wedges Review: Are They Really the Holy Grail of Wedges? Any help would be appreciated. From this list, the Hot 500 was selected. I was wondering if anyone has heard of them. And the manufacturers charge what the market will pay. Money that I would have blown by being scammed then having to go out and do it right the second time. If I try to trace route their url I get stopped at secureserver.net which appears to be a proxy network to hide their real location. At least you know where to go if something goes wrong. and is also protected by China and its international copyright laws. Notice the word China! They have good feedback rating, but the clubs they are selling is possibly 70-80% of the MRP. http://www.golfulove.com. Almost like a Newport and Newport 2 had a child! Avoiding the colors, lines, grooves or enhanced soles that other iron makers use to draw eyes to their golf clubs. And that 50% of top blands as well, wow! Some companies etch the serial numbers into the metal and some companies use a laser that isnt actually etched into the metal. I am glad you had a good experience with them Chris. Sunny13:21:25 And thanks for speaking up to infom others about these scammers! I cant believe that theyre not just selling fakes. I say this because Ive bought from other eBay shops that simply toss the club in the box with no padding and ship it off (and they wonder why they get complaints about damaged clubs). The previous information has been obtained either directly from the registrant or a registrar of the domain name other than Network Solutions. How screwed am I? And again, just because a serial number doesnt check out with an American manufacturer doesnt mean its FAKE For example Mizuno (USA) only serializes their clubs when they reach the USA. The Miura stamp does not line up with the line below it on genuine ones either, false alarm. A set of Project X shafts alone are $4-500. The bottom of the club is more rounded and the bottom grooves starts slightly higher on the face. bk12, November 26, 2019 in Deal or No Deal? Record last updated on..: Mon, Nov 03, 2008, Administrative Contact: I am ready to do WAR!!! We had originals in the shop to compare to, and they are identical. Other online retailers have them for 799. Any info on this site. i recently purchased a Ping G-10 driver and 3-wood on ebay. our price is reasonable enough All of our clubs are brand new, 100% from the original factory, with high quality and excellent performance. If so, was it real? ), Business Categories can you confirm i got ripped off at http://www.discountgolfwholesale.com ? I'm trying to figure out how to look for any telltale clues on K Grinds, which don't come up on 2nd Swing. 2420 E Hennepin Ave Here is the whois info for them. Headcover not fur lined, The shaft sticker lists the Cameron website as www.Scotty Oameron.com When I contacted them, I was given the old OEM line etc. They also said they regulate their prices according to the volume of products and that a lot of these prices will end at the end of April. Why would you want to make a comparison with Rockbottomgolf.com when Rockbottomgolf has previously admitted it does not receive golf clubs through the authorised channels provided by the makers of such big brands as Titleist, Ping, Callaway, Mizuno, Taylormade, Cobra etc? Counterfeit MX-700 Fairway Wood. how can the scotty cameron can be that low, everywhere else , they are 299. Anyway, I found that golfdealonline.com, discountgolf18.com, and golfsuperstoreonline.com all have the same contact number of (919)228-9899. Pinemeadowgolf.com is one company that does this and I have read their website extensively. Normally, the counterfeit serial numbers are in a different font and specifically a larger font. Just wanting to make sure. I live in the Netherlands and I want to buy a set of irons (Callaway X-22 ) on the following websites: xxxxxxxxxxxx.com really a legitimate outlet? and fast shipping. New York, NY 10018 Would like to know if this is true and are they selling genuine or fake clubs. The compilation (meaning the collection, arrangement, and assembly) of all Contents on this site is the exclusive property of Golfskydiscount,Inc. Now I assume you are equipped to research (I did mine), and a little digging you would have found this newspaper article (i.e. $650 tax in (on top; they threw in a 24pk Srixon AD333 and 24pk Bridgestone E6+ $45 value) You can check our. Buying from a reputable retail store and yes paying a little extra not only gives you peace of mind, but the clubs are under warranty for 1-2 years as well. Are there any options for me to get my money back? The difference is the counterfiters use inferior materials in the molds. The business is a household name in the golfing community and enjoys an impressive level of customer acknowledgement. Do not buy from them. buy them from japan from a.proper.retailer and pay up for quality. I was told they moved production to China in the last year. Once it came we noticed it looked weird so we tested his against mine(I also have one) and it was like hitting small rock with the ball all I have to say it dont use rockbottomgolf.com. Have you looked closely at the website or just the pretty pictures of golf clubs with amazing prices? some companies still rely on word advertising so they build very good clubs. IGOLFYOO, GOLFSMARTDEAL, GOLFMARTDISCOUNT offer very poorly made taylormade fakes (sold a legit). Recently, I responded to a add to buy some clubs which turned into a phone conversation about golf clubs. Admin Street3: My irons were same swingweight from Callaway here. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. They have a number listed in NY and London and I called the NY number and they said that they GUARANTEE all their products are 100% OEM and shipped directly from the manufacturer in China, which doesnt concern me because I know majority of all equipment are made in China or Taiwan. Serial number , well they said when I get my clubs i can check to the serial numbers. web site, that your use of the site is at your sole risk. Our supplier also provide components to the original brand comanies. Cobra King UT 18* w/Kbs C-taper lite 110s. Does anybody know? Total difference in performance. On the newer drivers and fairway woods the serial numbers are on the sole of the club back toward the hosel. tel: The Most Insane Golf Blog Contest Ever!, WIN $420 of Free Money by Commenting on This Post, CONTEST! STEAL THESE FROM ME! For some reason I got a thanks for communicating message and was cut off Didn't take much research to firm that up. They look similar to the set I posted here. You are not a good enough golfer to know the difference but if you were to replace your fake clubs with the real thing, you would knock a few strokes or more off your handicap and no longer be handicapped by crap clubs made by people who are undermining everyones economy. Company information: Seems like ferrules are different on a lot of clubs, but I suppose that's the result of Miuras coming as components/being custom built each time? Toby I am very please that this article helped. Although still entirely made in their Himeiji forging house, Miura clubs are sold in the component form to approved dealers who can custom fit players to their clubs. The seller has not yet responded. The best way to put counterfeiters out of business is to educate buyers on how to avoid buying their products. As for the suggestion that you shouldnt be buying better clubs if youre not good enough to be playing themor whatever that argument was.its just a faulty idea.
Keepin it Real, Fake. JDM Style - Japanese Golf Clubs - Japanese Golf Go to your local golf store instead. NS2.FASTNEXT.COM. Miura now has dealers throughout the US and the world. Go on the website, wait until somebody online wants to help you via chat. No slip during all of my swings. RockBottomGolf.com ranked 159th out of 500 and had a 586% growth over four years between 2002 and 2006. Wondering if this is selling fake products. Would love to hear more about your findingsour survey did not seem to be as high. An example: http://thegolfclubreviews.com/. I see about 30 different website under many different name of business while same contact us and see Chicago. I picked up a set of X-22s from Craigslist that were beautiful for $250 I was going to send them to Callaway to get lengthened but then found deals from a few places on the net like Cheapgolfmall.com among others. Dear sir, Hey Nash have you recived your clubs yet are the genuine ? if you are not satisfied with the quality, we can give you a full refund under the condition that the product is perfectly good and you ship it back by yourself. Club head could be a different shape than an authentic club. Display as a link instead, Your link has been automatically embedded. thank you, thank you, thank youI almost bought a set of X22s for a great price from Suno Golf and that old adage if its too good to be true popped into my head. I wouldnt buy irons, or driver if the web site smells funny (web-page errors, approximate English..), no customer service you can contact. You may be aware that Titlist could soon be launching its 714 irons for 2014. Although recently it seems that Callaway has stopped putting serial numbers on their fairway woods and hybrids, so if you have a recent model it may no longer have a serial. I agree with all you said, i guess I just hoped someone would have said yes it is genuine however assessing your Chinese jive, I will avoid this and save my 240. i was checking this site out and was real close to buying and then decided to research it first.. anyone got any comments or any info about it..it has to be fake with prices as low as they have them mp 68s for like 330$. Sorry Tim, but as good as that sounds, it is not that easy. Last Update Date: 2006-06-15, Name Servers: they even own a shop called Chris cotes golf shop. Registrant Street2: The heads on the TaylorMade r7 460 drivers are uncannily similar even the fonts are pretty close although the shade of orange on the crescent isnt quite right. When you get down to it, Ill take a slightly less pretty club over a possible fake every day of the week.