Hell, Colt still makes the Single Action Army. Now try looking up punctuation. Glock claims that this translates into longer pistol longevity as well as better accuracy overall. I will say this again: If other blogs can do it, then it can be done. One in the chamber is NOT ALWAYS the best option. Holstered the Glock like that into kydex holster. I have trained chambering on the draw and while it is less effective I am still way ahead of the guy who doesnt carry. A loaded GLOCK, some of the comments went, is susceptible to the dreaded GLOCK ND (negligent discharge). While the bad guy is picking up the decoy gun and trying to shoot you with it, you draw your real piece with a round loaded. I have done special work to lighten my trigger and its still not very touchy. Capacity: 15 rounds. The answer is "yes." Milliseconds count. and yes i train and rehearse that The Glock trigger is too light and too short to be safe, and I understand Glocks are way far overrepresented in the annals of ND, which is very easy to understand. Good username though. Glock then redesigned the weapon as a striker fired weapon because they knew the average low I.Q. So I traded it. There was also some discussion of Fairbairn and Sykes experience in the Shanghai police with what is commonly referred to as Israeli carry. There are some inherent problems there. As I mentioned elsewhere here, the trigger pull and safety mechanism are irrelevant to the *proximate* cause of any Glock discharge Im aware of. Cycling against objects using your sight is slow and not easily done. An empty chamber is worthless when you need it and fractions of a second count. Being a klutz is one thing. That doesnt mean you can ever fool around with one. Just go to there web site, or go to your gun store for more information. Im not interested in Israeli carry of a firearm. The 223/5.56 is the most common centerfire rifle cartridge in the US. In fact, when applying for a gun permit in Israel, self-defense is not an acceptable reason to get a gun. And my Glock 17. Nothing is more dangerous than a little knowledge. Muscle memory is a life saver when things go adrenaline slow MO mode, and those Taurus, PT-111s, have that thumb safety where Im used to one being, the pipe is red hot, and, eyeball to eyeball, it will fire again without re-racking the rear sights on someones nose. But otherwise it still is a pretty good gunfight scene. With only six on tap anyway, whats one less? so the theory still stands, if you dont want a negligent discharge, dont be negligent. And an unloaded weapon does you no good if/when you need it. The off hand comment was to the effect of glocks being less safe to carry with a round in the chamber than others. How often do you train your driving abilities? Break into my house and well see how seriously you take a couple .44 mag slugs to the chest. says: How often do you train your driving abilities?. Few indeed even care about SA revolvers anymore, or even know they exist, or care about the firing mechanism. Sacrilegious. the first two rules of safe gun handling are Dont touch the trigger until you are ready to shoot, and dont point it at anything you dont want to destroy. 4 under extreme stress you may short stroke it. In practice? Hell, try it with a taser. Bear in mind that all Glock pistols are striker fired and are have no manual safeties. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/the-truth-about-6-5mm-ammo/ Place your loaded, chambered G19 into the holster (not attached to your belt). Let the one with no traffic tickets throw the first stone. I dont understand why anyone who carries a modern firearm is afraid to carry a round in the chamber??? Many people think walking around with a loaded gun is dangerous, irresponsible, and paranoid. Um. Never mind the others. Glocks have a trigger pull of 5-1/2 to 6 pounds. silly? Seattle is like a miniature version from a driving perspective. Several years ago I read an article (I think it was Masaad Ayoob) detailing about a half dozen cases were cops had their guns taken away from them by perps and the perps couldnt figure out how to manipulate the safeties, saving the cops lives. I wouldnt have or carry any with a non hot pipe, but thats just me. Despite its . No kids at home anymore so no worry there. You just have to scroll down to it. Almost always comes back to the trigger. The Baltimore Police Department, Los Angeles Police Department, Miami Police Department, and Maryland State Police are all known to utilize the Glock handgun. . I have no issue using any of my Glocks as a SD gun, nor do I have any issue using any of my 1911s, any of my revolvers, or any of my other guns. Yeah, me too. Absolutely. I may not have the time to chamber a round if a BG is close enough. When the fight starts, ejecting a live round onto the ground, or hearing the click of a empty chamber, will just mess up your day, maybe your last day. always, just got the g23 and after the range it'll be in the rotation with the sigs. Pull back the hammer, you notice how it clicks 4 times? Glock 22 Gen 3 (Photo: Gunprime) The full-size Glock 22 was made to fill the gap between .45 and 9mm. The engineer who designed a take down system whereby the slide has to be forward and you have to pull the trigger must have on that day tripped out on LSD. Its kind of unneeded though, because inertial firing pins can only build firing inertia on their own if the whole gun accelerates, and then stops suddenly. Human brains arent too sure of themselves, and if an expected result does not occur, our brain responds by doing the action again, just to make sure it did it the first time. Since its a bookmark and not a save, it will go there and update to the latest info. If you carry a modern pistol with an exposed trigger, you are own your own. I think I can answer that one. A S&W Model 329. 2. Answer (1 of 104): For me. I have a Sig DA/SA, fully loaded no problem. It was being carried in an improper holster or the operator got careless in putting the pistol back into the holster, by not making sure the path was clear. The reason that the Israelis carry with an empty chamber is because Israel does not have a concept of self defense. you roll the dice. This site is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. The pistol was designed to be carried with a round in the chamber with the safety on or off as your choice. Glock dominates the handgun market in both the United States and around the globe. An unchambered gun is a dangerous, useless-to-you half measure. However, it is not unusual for some new to guns like Glocks to be concerned about carrying a round chambered. If you want a common username better grab it quick though. Thats OK with me. P.T. I help equip people with knowledge and skills so they can be safe and effective with firearms. Descriptions: Glocks are safe to carry with a loaded chamber as long as they are carried in a decent holster that completely covers the trigger. Ive been carrying mine daily for five years and will continue to carry it as long as I can. If my gun lands at my childs feet, an empty chamber leaves plenty of time to prevent a tragedy, but a chambered striker-fired gun may not. Many competition shooters boast about having it done to their race gun. the safety doesnt enter into it. Israeli special forces dont empty chamber carry. Say, if you can make that mistake (and you did), are you willing to admit that maybe, just possibly, youve mad other mistakes? Bottom line: For *any* firearm, you have to *put your finger (or some other object) INTO the trigger guard to fire the weapon.*. If you can have a momentary lapse of judgement handling a half million ft/lbs you could certainly have one while handling 350. But how often are you a klutz when handling or holstering your firearm? Training happens every time we do something, no matter if its shooting, driving, or eating. We have lots more on the site to show you. Off the top of my head, I dont remember actually seeing that, but in The Shootist, John Wayne does mention it. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. . There are tons of features that make it worth your consideration, starting with its trademark durability and flexibility. Alright so you said all the pros, not all are valid. I carry all my guns chambered. If the trigger safety is not . Even though everyone who has ever used and examined a SA revolver can easily see that the firing pin is ALWAYS in contact with the primer when the hammer is down, if the chamber under it has a round in it?, And, again, absolutism that is far too easy to refute. Heres how all of this bogus started. In fact, it uses S&W Shield Plus magazines. The initial pull of this trigger performs generally the same function as the thumb safety of a 1911 or single action. Ive been known to knock over a glass of milk , spill my coffee down my chin , have people toot their horn at me from time to time , you get my point . Pretty soon, it became standard for guns to have a manual safety switch. I dont have to hit a bypass cause its cocked, or turn off a safety, just pump and fire. Didnt check that the gun was clear. I carried a 1911 for awhile and the duty holsters made for 1911s have the retaining strap that goes across the back of slide, which also blocks the hammer from firing pin. . Check out this post which is one of the most popular of all time. Those stances, their great for cops and competition but IMO bot so great in a gunfight up close. The Glock if it came under the Governments Consumer Safety Council would never have been allowed on the market. If you did not realize the design is dangerous, you would not have spent so much time belaboring the obvious. You might like it. MOLON LABE. The reason was that there wasnt anything between the hammer and either the nipple or the primer of the cartridge. Mine, of course, is in the latter, and it's held up well to a lot of shooting. So when do you get to be a klutz if youve taken the time to train those reactions until as the experts say you not only get it right, you cant get it wrong? All are coded alike, but each has a different weapon in condition 1 ready to go. Thats not a very fresh idea. Unfortunately, the safety is on the wrong side of the slide for me so I dont use it. I dont condemn those who carry a striker with one in the chamber. Safe wise, I like the Homak #584 4 digit/code safe. What you are overlooking is the odds. Which raises the question: How tough can it possibly be to fix? Sound off in the comments! Go peddle your homosexual fantasies elsewhere. Run what you brung. I have handguns that have a magazine safety I leave the mag out a 1/2 inch in the lock box and the mag cant be rammed home while in the box(like if it were dropped). its full screen with proper sound and everything. Thanks for the tip. Only, dumb guys wouldnt understand that. Passive safeties Are Not A Replacement for an active safety. Is a cheap one as good as a safe from, say, a Liberty or Rhino? How often are you a klutz when driving a car? My G19 pull is about 4-1/2# about the same as a lot of 1911 guns. My Glock 23 is fully loaded, and no problems at all, even with the 3.5 connector in it that lightens the trigger pull a bit. And you should be, too. The end result is the same, but the means to that end are directly opposite in how they function. Glocks dont have an external safety because they were designed as a simple to operate as possible. All terrific replies. Carry your GLOCK pistol chambered without worry, the same as every other modern striker fired pistol on the market. So you have no quibble with the line; If dropped, the hammer could contact the primer and therefore, fire., in relation to SA revolvers? Sounds a lot like a problem created by attorneys to have something to sue over, doesnt it? Um, Smith & Wesson doesnt use a transfer bar, they use a hammer block.
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